Rick and Marty Lagina on Season 14: "This Is the Year to Watch"

Television promotion has a sound of its own, and The HISTORY Channel's announcement of the season had it. The brothers, the network said, "believe they've never been closer to solving the Oak Island mystery." The words the Laginas chose themselves came from somewhere older than any press release.

The search began in a Michigan boyhood. Rick was eleven when he read about Oak Island in the January 1965 issue of Reader's Digest, and before that, as Rick told Lori Rosales of Sidewalks Entertainment, the two boys had their own treasure: a giant stone near home they called the Indian rock. Whenever they had the chance, they went up there and tried to dig under it and move it. "It's like we're carrying on that legacy," Rick said. In the 1990s Rick made his first pilgrimage to Oak Island. In 2006 the brothers came on as partners of Dan Blankenship, the man who had spent most of his life digging there. The first episode of the series aired in January 2014, eight years later.

Two men who were digging long before anyone filmed them do not need a television season to justify the search, and they said as much. "We are stewards of a great mystery and we want to continue," Rick told Vegas Film Critic. "It's not about having to continue or being forced to continue. The island holds a distinctively unique mystery, and I want to understand what it is: who, what, when, where, why and how. That's what keeps me coming back." What they said in November appears to be their own, and it reads that way.

In Sacramento, the first question went to Rick Lagina, the elder brother. After all this time, the host wanted to know, did he still believe that something lay waiting under the ground. He answered without a pause: "100%, yeah."

Then he went further than the question asked. "I think this year in particular, there's proof of an old world treasure brought to the new world long before conventionally accepted wisdom would accept," he said. "And I truly believe that."

Asked for a hint, he declined in a single sentence: "Unfortunately, I cannot." What he offered instead was an instruction to the audience. "If you were to watch but one year of the 14 years of the show, this is the year to watch," he said. Viewers would "see the proof that I suggest is there." Then came the qualification, and it matters as much as the claim: "It will be up to everyone to decide how meaningful it is. For me, it was incredibly meaningful."

Three days later he told Fishman something he had not said in Sacramento. The man who has believed since he was eleven said that he had had his doubts. He no longer has them, he said. And he repeated the qualification: viewers will have to decide for themselves how far the evidence moves them. To the Midland Daily News he named the place to look: if there was one year to watch the show, he said, this was it, and he pointed to the discoveries in the Money Pit. Marty added that important things were happening elsewhere on the island too.

Rick did not say whether by treasure he meant gold, an object, a document or something else. He was precise about one thing only, and that was time. Whatever the team found supports, in his words, "an old world treasure visited or brought to the new world long before it should be here." In Michigan he said some of this year's findings have pushed the team's timeline back to a period when Europeans "shouldn't have been on this continent." In Tampa he said it at full strength: "For the first time ever I believe we have absolutely tied an old world treasure to the new world long before conventionally accepted wisdom says Europeans were on this continent." Then he weighed his own words: "That in and of itself is an incredibly dramatic statement to make."

To Tony Toscano of Screen Chatter he put a century on it. The early work on the island, he said, perhaps goes back to the 12th and 13th centuries. "I personally believe it's far earlier, and we have some science and technology that corroborate that." To Vegas Film Critic he described how the evidence had come together. The finds in the field, the research, the work of the laboratory, the carbon dates and the dendrochronology dates, the dating of wood by its tree rings, "seem to be aligning," he said. "There's a much more robust framework that is pointing us towards a much more complete understanding of what I believe is literally a world-class mystery, and will change history as it is conventionally accepted at some point."

His promise to Screen Chatter was the plainest of all. "I think when you get to the end of this year, you will say to yourself, you know what, it is far, far more than what I thought it was." It is the same argument the team had spent the previous season building in the laboratory, one carbon date and one coin at a time, and this year Rick spoke of it as an argument he believes has been won.

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Marty Lagina, the younger brother, is an engineer. On the show he is the one who asks what a find actually proves, and who reminds the room how hard the work is. So the Sacramento host's question to him was pointed: what was the closest he had come to saying he could not do this anymore.

Marty checked first whether the question was meant for him or for Rick. Then he answered it without softening. "I've come close several times," he said. The reason, as he put it, is a line he has drawn for himself: "You cross the line from perseverance to foolhardiness, you know, and I never want to do that. I never want to cross that line." He admitted the team had come near it before: "I think we've come close maybe seasons past."

Then the turn. "But we are so far away from the foolhardy line this year," he said. "What happened this year, I just couldn't have predicted." He called it "absolutely mindblowing," and finished with the sentence that carried the interview: "It just moves the needle towards that this is real, that's all I can tell you."

Toscano asked whether, fourteen seasons in, the brothers were getting tired. Marty's answer drew a line between this year and the ones before it. "If you'd asked me that last year, the year before, I would have said yes, very much so. Not this year, because of the things that happened." He added the one certainty he would allow: "We are getting older." He also told Toscano something about the engineer's pride he has carried onto the island. When the brothers first arrived, he thought modern technology would have the mystery solved in six months. "What we're dealing with is far more complex than we ever understood."

To TV Insider he put this year in a single sentence: "I never could have anticipated what showed up on that island this year." He also told Fishman that in the course of the season there were moments when he seriously considered giving up, and that he and Rick talked it over on the island. The two accounts do not cancel each other out. A season can bring a man close to walking away and then give him the reason to stay. To the Midland Daily News he described how that reason builds. One find follows another, he said, until their sheer number leaves no way around the conclusion that something very odd happened on the island. Asked about his favorite discoveries in more than a decade of digging, he said that his top three may all come from this season.

On the Tampa show he explained how a skeptic gets there. He regularly asks Laird Niven, the team's archaeologist, whether the same kind of material would turn up on any of the other islands in Mahone Bay, and the answer, he said, is "absolutely not." "When you find things like Roman coins, and then some of the things I can't comment on this year, it just leads you a long ways away from skepticism," he said. He described the rule he tries to work by: "You can't discard data that you find uncomfortable." Some of what has been found on the island makes him, as a skeptic, uncomfortable. "So you just got to go with the data, and the data is leading me out of skepticism. Not entirely, but a long ways from where I started."

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The man who once dismissed most Oak Island theories now rules out very little. Asked by Vegas Film Critic whether Knights Templar could be buried on the island, he recalled a conversation years ago with a senior member of a present-day Templar order who believed exactly that. "I don't discard anything anymore," Marty said. "I did initially. I thought it was all just conjecture and nonsense, really, when I first set foot on Oak Island. But I don't anymore." The burial idea, he said, seems unlikely, "but let's not rule it out."

The furthest he went came on Sidewalks Entertainment. A series of things, he told Lori Rosales, had made him "from a skeptic into a not quite true believer like big brother here, but I'm pretty close at this point." Then, asked what he would do once the treasure is found, he chose his words with care. "We're pretty sure that when we find this, I'm going to say when, that it is going to be historically significant," he said, "which Rick is probably amazed to hear me say."

The weight of those words comes from who spoke them. Rick Lagina's belief has been part of this story since he was a boy reading Reader's Digest. An engineer who has measured his own project against foolhardiness, has seen that line up close, and now says "when" is a different kind of witness.

Marty did not change his mind alone. He told Fishman that Rick had to pull the rest of the family along, and he named his own son Alex Lagina, their nephew Peter Fornetti and himself as skeptics who came round. For Rick, what mattered was how they came round. They examined the work themselves and believed because they had proved it to themselves. Rick put it in almost the words Marty used in Tampa: data you do not agree with is still data you cannot ignore. He told the Midland Daily News that Alex and Peter got there through their own intellect and their hunger to understand, and that after all the ups and downs of the search, he remembered thinking that at last it had to be real to them.

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Near the end of the Sacramento segment, the hosts tried once more, asking for "a little bit of a nugget, gold nugget, if you will." Rick answered by way of a long-running family argument. "Marty has always said that the story of Oak Island begins and ends in the money pit," he said. Rick is not fully persuaded, because, as he put it, "we have also proven that it is an islandwide mystery."

But he granted his brother the point that mattered. The Money Pit, the shaft three young men began digging on the east end of the island in 1795, is "incredibly important," he said, and something "that could not have been anticipated" had come to light in connection with the team's work there. In his mind, he said, it proves that the mystery of Oak Island is real, "and perhaps more real than we had at first thought."

Neither brother said what that was. Marty came closest, and he did it with a joke at his own expense. Asked by Vegas Film Critic about a single piece of wood that could point the team in the right direction, he laughed that there was "a lot more than a single piece of wood" this year. He has told Rick, he said, that he has had enough wood. "Let's find something more than wood." Then he gave the reason no amount of wood can be waved away: "If wood carbon dates to the 14th century and it's found deep in the Money Pit, well, you can't disregard that. That's hard science."

In the same answer he described what keeps pulling the team back. "In a way it might be easier if we got to the bottom of the Money Pit and there it was, and there's nothing there, and then, good, we're done. But it's just not that simple, and those aren't the things that are happening. The island keeps offering up enough to just grab you by the nose and pull you back." He was careful about the source of that pull: "From hard data, not from emotion, at least from my standpoint."

To TV Insider Rick was more specific about where the team had been working. Beneath the Money Pit area runs a solution channel, a natural passage dissolved into the bedrock. Rick said the team has shown beyond doubt that heavy objects fall to that depth and can fall no further. In other words, anything heavy that went down from above would come to rest there. It is still something of a puzzle, he said, and this year's work showed it to be larger than the team had understood. Because the bedrock rises and falls, he added, no one can yet be sure its bottom has been fully cleared.

He also explained why a find from that depth need not look like much. Some of the deep metal the team recovers is not an artifact in the usual sense, he told the Midland Daily News, only shapeless lumps of metal. Laboratory analysis can still draw information from them and help the team judge how old the mystery is. Sometimes, as he put it, a find is simply a find.

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Across seven interviews, the brothers reached for the same idea again and again. "What happened this year, I just couldn't have predicted," Marty said in Sacramento. In Tampa it became "something I couldn't have even dreamed up," on Screen Chatter "totally unpredictable," and on Sidewalks Entertainment a couple of discoveries that would "knock your socks off." The words changed and the point did not. After more than a decade of planned digs, the thing both brothers chose to stress was something neither of them had planned for.

That was as close as either brother came to a spoiler on CBS. The host closed the segment by remarking on "the symmetry of your work in the Money Pit and our work trying to get a spoiler out of you guys," and on the way out the brothers asked viewers to "keep rooting for us."

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Rick had told the Sacramento hosts that Oak Island is an islandwide mystery, and Fishman drew both brothers out on the parts of the island beyond the Money Pit. On Lot 5, home of the round stone foundation, Marty said the archaeologists remain puzzled, and that what the team finds there has almost no precedent anywhere in Nova Scotia. Rick said the archaeology on Lot 5 supports a very early timeline, a phrase that fits the medieval dates the team carried into this season.

On Lot 8 lies the 40,000-pound boulder in its stone cradle. Marty said he had once been a skeptic about it himself. Every scientist who has examined it, he said, now agrees that it was put in place by human hands, and this season produced more data about it. To the Midland Daily News he called it the oddest thing he could conceive of: someone moved a giant rock for reasons the team still does not understand and set it on a carefully arranged bed of smaller stones. He compared it to Alice in Wonderland, a puzzle that only grows stranger the closer you look.

In the swamp, Rick said, the hardest opponent was the weather. The ground was as wet this year as it had been dry the year before, and the team found structures that it could not get to the bottom of.

In Sacramento, Marty spoke of the people who dug before the brothers. "They never give up," he said. "Most of them stay with it until they die. In fact, some of them died right on the island searching."

That is not a figure of speech. Six people have died in the search. A worker was scalded to death when a pump boiler burst in 1861. Maynard Kaiser, a member of the Oak Island Treasure Company's crew, fell to his death in 1897 when a hoisting rope slipped. On August 17, 1965, Robert Restall, a former carnival daredevil who had lived on the island with his family for six years, was overcome by gas in a shaft near Smith's Cove, along with his son Bobby, the investor Karl Graeser and the worker Cyril Hiltz. An old island legend holds that seven must die before the treasure is found.

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The host suggested the brothers must have known from the start that the search would take years. Marty would not take the easy way out of that one. "Well, I kind of hoped it wouldn't have been," he said. "There's a reason it's still mysterious after 200 years. It's not easy." And then: "I thought we'd solve it sooner than this. I did."

Toscano told Marty that Oak Island seems never to let go of anyone. Marty agreed that it is the common thread among everyone who has set foot there. "It grabs you and it does not let you go. I hate to say this, but most people before us ended up spending their entire lives. They never gave up, right till the time they died. That's how much it grabs you." Then he set out the brothers' own hope in the same breath: "We would like to figure it out somewhat before that. I hope we are here long enough to figure it all out, and just have that crowning, you know, last show of the last season."

Rick's pointer to the Money Pit fits what The HISTORY Channel had released in the five weeks before the interviews. The network announced the season on October 2, 2026: twenty-five episodes, premiering Tuesday, November 10, at 9 PM Eastern, with a Drilling Down special on the top ten finds of Season 13 in the hour before and the debut of History's Mystery Files, a new series hosted by the actor Jorge Garcia, in the hour after. The release said that in the new season the brothers would "push further than ever, determined to validate a lifetime of work and the legacy of generations of searchers who came before them." Next to Marty's account of the men who died on the island, that line reads as more than promotion.

On October 13 the network released the first four episode titles, each with a one-line description. Three of the four mention new finds in the Money Pit. In Episode 1, "Silver Lining Playbook," the team is "rocked by new discoveries in the Money Pit and in the massive boulder feature on Lot 8." In Episode 2, "Bubbling Up," the team drills into the man-made stone cradle under that boulder. Episode 3 carries the title "The Golden Ratio," and its description has the team drilling "to find the gold that was detected deep in the Money Pit area" when it makes "a surprising and incredible new find." In Episode 4, "Descending Knights," new finds on Lot 5 and in the Money Pit lift the team's spirits.

The official season trailer carries the same note. In it, someone on the team reacts to a find in disbelief: "What the heck, you found that in the Money Pit." On November 3, TV Insider published a promo for the season, shared exclusively with the site. In it, Rick says, "This is what we've spent our entire lives searching for." The teaser ends with the two brothers in an emotional embrace.

Asked by Fishman how he expected viewers to react, Marty said he hoped the answer would be exhilaration. He added that there had been some emotion on the island, and that he would leave it there. According to the Midland Daily News, the emotional moment in the promo takes place in the Money Pit. Asked about it, Rick told the paper that the team had been stunned.

Filming began on Monday, June 1, 2026. Oak Island is joined to the mainland by a narrow causeway, built in 1965 to carry the heavy machinery of an earlier search, and nearly everything that goes onto the island or comes off it passes the houses at the mainland end. One of them belongs to a neighbor who watches the comings and goings and reports them on her Facebook page, Oak Island From The Other Side of The Causeway. Through the summer of 2026, she posted what she saw pass along the road.

As the heavy work wound down, she reported that almost the last piece of equipment had rolled off the island. She also passed on something she had heard, a rumor that "something significant was found this year." Over the same months, visitors to the area described a busy island and a team in good spirits, and fans followed drone footage on Facebook and YouTube for any glimpse of the work.

A rumor is only a rumor, and she said no more than that: not what, not where, not who found it. But it was the first word to reach the public, months before the brothers sat down for their interviews. In summer, a neighbor on the mainland relayed talk of something significant. In November, the two men who run the dig said, in their own words, that they had seen something no one anticipated. Neither source said what it was.

The interviews make most sense against the place Season 13 ended. When the season closed on May 5, 2026, with the episode "Pure Gold," the team had more finds to weigh than in any year before. Surveyor Steve Guptill's final heat map plotted more than 800 discoveries, and Niven put the year's total closer to 1,200. The pink markers on the map, reserved for finds older than the 1700s, were scattered across the island.

In the Money Pit area, the season's last caisson, a steel shaft the team called MP-1, reached bedrock at 210 feet, five feet short of its planned depth. Metal detection expert Gary Drayton went through what it brought up and found nineteenth-century drill pipe, a badly twisted iron fragment, and a piece of stained wood with an unusual, palm-like grain. It was the wood that stopped Rick. As he pointed out at the time, it had no natural reason to be down there.

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On Lot 8, hand excavation inside the stone cradle beneath the 40,000-pound boulder had gone well below the six-foot depth at which the trench beside it seemed to meet bedrock. Yet the hammer-drill samples from inside the cradle were too soft to convince Niven that bedrock had been reached there at all. Marty's position at the end of the season was that the work stays open until the team understands what lies underneath, and archaeologist Fiona Steele's working estimate placed the feature as early as the 1200s.

Lot 8 Giant BoulderMedieval · Cradle binder: post-1200s (Culligan) and pre-mid-1700s (Spooner); described as premodern, possibly medieval; wood within the cradle mortar dated to between 1694 and 1726 (Spooner, Season 14)→

Then there were the dates, which matter most for what Rick said in November. Leather shoe fragments from a cobblestone path in the swamp returned a radiocarbon range of 1148 to 1216 AD. The Italian astronomer Professor Adriano Gaspani placed the astronomical alignments of a round stone foundation on Lot 5 at about 1236 AD, close to his earlier estimate of 1217 AD for Nolan's Cross, the cross of large boulders on the island first mapped by the surveyor Fred Nolan. Archaeometallurgist Emma Culligan's analysis of the binder in the Lot 8 cradle pointed to premodern construction. In Angra do Heroísmo in the Azores, the Portuguese numismatist Alberto Silva dated the Pitblado coin, a Portuguese coin struck under King Ferdinand I, to no later than 1371. Acadia University geologist Dr. Robert Raeside placed a stone cannonball catalogued as Peacock-1 in the 1300s or early 1400s. These findings come from different methods and do not all point to the same moment. Together, they gave the team a medieval possibility to test. By November, with wood from the 14th century deep in the Money Pit and a timeline Rick now places in the 12th and 13th centuries, the brothers were speaking of that possibility as something firmer.

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One lead from the laboratory remained. Of fifteen wood samples tested in a program run with Acadia University geologist Dr. Ian Spooner, a piece recovered from Shaft 2A in 2024 returned the island's highest silver reading and its third-highest gold reading. The results were enough for Marty to commit to more testing.

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The gold that gave the finale its name came from Marty himself. At the season's closing meeting in the War Room, he produced a one-ounce gold coin bearing a Canadian maple leaf and used it to mark the spot he wanted the team to dig first in Season 14. The next season had a starting point before the last one was over.

The search has also become an education. Marty told the Midland Daily News that it had led him to history he had never known, such as the expedition of the Duc d'Anville, the French armada sent across the Atlantic in 1746 to retake Louisbourg and Acadia, which storms and disease destroyed before it could fight. Threads like that interest him, he said, whether or not they turn out to lead back to the island.

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Rick spoke of a debt. The search, he said, has at times gone quiet for as long as forty years between one group of searchers and the next. What kept the story alive through those silences, in his view, was not the searchers but the public, and today it is the viewers whose enthusiasm keeps the brothers going. Viewers worldwide, he told Toscano, have "propelled this thing forward to the point where we feel like we are working in concert with them." Marty added that much of the advice fans send has been tried, even when it never made it onto the show, and that everything he receives comes from someone who wants to help.

In Tampa Rick described how that public has changed. Kevin Burns, the producer who created the series, built it around two words he thought would draw an audience, curse and treasure, but he soon saw that the story itself was the draw. In the early years, Rick said, eight or nine out of ten people were consumed with the treasure. Now they are consumed with the story: "the who, the what, the when, the where, the why, the how" of what happened on the island so very long ago.

The duty runs to the island itself. When the brothers arrived, Rick told Toscano, they wanted "to heal the island physically and emotionally," after years of bitter feuding between Fred Nolan and Dan Blankenship. They undertook reforestation, and they work closely with Nova Scotia's regulators, whom Rick called incredibly supportive. He set that against the 1970s, when Blankenship used dynamite in his exploration. Marty, the engineer, admitted that there are days when he would rather dig with an excavator than a trowel.

Asked what should become of Oak Island once the search is over, Marty said that Rick has ideas and that he himself has no settled plan; for now, both want to reach the bottom of the mystery first. Rick said he hopes the team will be remembered as good stewards of the island and its history, and that he would like the mystery preserved for the generations who come after.

What they would do with a treasure was settled long ago, by their father. Rick told Sidewalks Entertainment that the brothers once asked him what they should do if there really were treasure on Oak Island. "Dad didn't hesitate for a minute," Rick said. "He said, 'Do good with it.'"

Interviews like these can be measured only against what the season eventually shows. The brothers knew that, and both of them built the measuring into what they said. Rick called his evidence proof and in the same breath handed the verdict to viewers, and he did it twice, to two interviewers, three days apart. Marty, who described the line between perseverance and foolhardiness that he will not cross, and who admitted that this year he had come close to giving up, now says "when." He chose the plainest words he could find and then stopped: "That's all I can tell you."

What they could say in those days had limits, and Marty named them in Tampa: "I can't tell you exactly because they won't let me." As with every season, finds made during filming stay off the record until the episodes air. What they chose to say within those limits is on record here, in their own words, before a single episode of Season 14 had been broadcast. Two brothers who started digging under a rock in Michigan as boys, and who were searching Oak Island long before there was a show about it, spoke this November like men who have seen their boyhood dream begin to answer back. The season itself is now the evidence, and Rick left no doubt about who gets to weigh it. "It will be up to everyone to decide how meaningful it is."

Corjan Mol, a historical researcher and cast member of the Oak Island team, appears in the official Season 14 trailer and worked with the team during filming. This article draws only on what the brothers, the network and their neighbor on the causeway said in public before the season aired.

The interviews

• CBS News Sacramento. "Rick & Marty Lagina talk 'The Curse of Oak Island'." Good Day Sacramento, 6 November 2026. Video interview with Rick and Marty Lagina. Watch at CBS News.
• Fishman, Scott. "'The Curse of Oak Island': Rick & Marty Lagina Talk Season 14 Challenges, Unexpected Findings." TV Insider, 9 November 2026. Interview with Rick and Marty Lagina, as republished by AOL.
• Huggins, Crystal. "'The Curse of Oak Island' Season 14: What Michigan's Rick and Marty Lagina say about the new discoveries." Midland Daily News, 9 November 2026. Interview with Rick and Marty Lagina.
• Tampa Bay 28 (WFTS). "New Season of The Curse of Oak Island." Tampa Bay's Morning Blend, 9 November 2026. Video interview with Rick and Marty Lagina. Watch at Tampa Bay 28.
• Toscano, Tony. Interview with Rick and Marty Lagina. Screen Chatter, November 2026. Video interview. Watch on YouTube.
• Rosales, Lori. "Interview: Rick and Marty Lagina (The Curse of Oak Island)." Sidewalks Entertainment, recorded 6 November 2026, published 10 November 2026. Video interview. Watch at Sidewalks Entertainment.
• Howard, Jeffrey K. Interview with Rick and Marty Lagina. Vegas Film Critic, November 2026. Video interview. Watch on YouTube.

Network announcements and press

• The HISTORY Channel (A&E Networks). "A Night of Mystery: New Series History's Mystery Files and a New Season of The Curse of Oak Island Premieres Nov. 10." Press release, 2 October 2026, as published by The Futon Critic.
• The HISTORY Channel (A&E Networks). Titles and descriptions for Season 14, Episodes 1 to 4, released 13 October 2026.
• The HISTORY Channel (A&E Networks). Official trailer for Season 14 of The Curse of Oak Island, 2026.
• HISTORY.com Editors. "Everything You Need to Know About the New Season of 'The Curse of Oak Island'." HISTORY.com, updated 4 November 2026.
• Fishman, Scott. "'The Curse of Oak Island' Promo Teases Major Discovery For Rick & Marty Lagina." TV Insider, 3 November 2026.
• Sky HISTORY. "Little known facts about the Lagina brothers." history.co.uk.

From the causeway

• Oak Island From The Other Side of The Causeway. Facebook page, posts from the summer of 2026.

Books

• Crooker, William S. Oak Island Gold. Halifax: Nimbus Publishing, 1993.
• Lamb, Lee. Oak Island Family: The Restall Hunt for Buried Treasure. Toronto: Dundurn, 2012.

Site records

• The Artifact Vault entries for the stained wood fragment from caisson MP-1, the giant boulder and stone cradle on Lot 8, the Claudius II Roman coin from Lot 5, and the wood sample from Shaft 2A with traces of gold and silver.